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		<title>By: Niemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True.  The only difference is three of those teams you mention (ucla, ky-kentucky, and unc) are very young.  ucla has a couple of solid seniors but a lot of sophomores and a freshman that play a lot.  kentucky was an average team the last few years and are adjusting to a new coach with a lot of new faces like John Wall.  And unc lost all their contributors from last year.  VT has more experience.

Also, the talent gap between the big boys and mid-majors has narrowed a lot with guys going to the NBA so early.

BUT, at the end of the day, it was just one game.  We&#039;ll see how things go in the next few weeks.  It just appeared all too much like the past after one game.  But Beamer always says you improve the most between Game #1 and #2, so we&#039;ll see if that applies to basketball too.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True.  The only difference is three of those teams you mention (ucla, ky-kentucky, and unc) are very young.  ucla has a couple of solid seniors but a lot of sophomores and a freshman that play a lot.  kentucky was an average team the last few years and are adjusting to a new coach with a lot of new faces like John Wall.  And unc lost all their contributors from last year.  VT has more experience.</p>
<p>Also, the talent gap between the big boys and mid-majors has narrowed a lot with guys going to the NBA so early.</p>
<p>BUT, at the end of the day, it was just one game.  We&#8217;ll see how things go in the next few weeks.  It just appeared all too much like the past after one game.  But Beamer always says you improve the most between Game #1 and #2, so we&#8217;ll see if that applies to basketball too.</p>
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		<title>By: vttraveler</title>
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		<dc:creator>vttraveler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niemo:

I am noticing a few upsets early in the college Basketball season.  Mississippi State to Iona, UCLA loss to Cal State, Kentucky pushed by Miami of Ohio, and Carolina struggles against Valpo.  Which proves early in the season is not indicative of long term outcomes.  I employ the fans to be patient we are a work in progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niemo:</p>
<p>I am noticing a few upsets early in the college Basketball season.  Mississippi State to Iona, UCLA loss to Cal State, Kentucky pushed by Miami of Ohio, and Carolina struggles against Valpo.  Which proves early in the season is not indicative of long term outcomes.  I employ the fans to be patient we are a work in progress.</p>
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		<title>By: Niemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HipHop - I agree on Raines.  I saw him play last year and figured he would at least as good as Cheick Diakite was as a senior for us.  He was aggressive inside.  He was limited offensively, but that&#039;s not what this team needs.  They just need a guy who sells out on D and the glass.

Traveler - I think the reason you don&#039;t see more pressure is Delaney.  You can&#039;t press if he&#039;s playing 37 minutes a night.  And right now he clearly doesn&#039;t have trust in Erick Green running the point or he&#039;d have played him more last night.  I agree we have good athletes but Seth&#039;s system is a half court system - on offense and defense.  It is tough to coach in a way you aren&#039;t comfortable with, similar to how Purnell struggles to run a half court system.
As for scheduling, the ACC/big(11)10 set who plays who, so there&#039;s nothing we could do about drawing iowa.  And to be fair, we&#039;ve only won once in the challenge (and that was against iowa).  But I agree with you on needing to play tougher competition.  The issue of late has been we couldn&#039;t beat the good teams OOC and lost to a couple of crappy teams.  All I can figure is we are just trying to rack up wins this year, or teams just won&#039;t play us in a home and home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HipHop &#8211; I agree on Raines.  I saw him play last year and figured he would at least as good as Cheick Diakite was as a senior for us.  He was aggressive inside.  He was limited offensively, but that&#8217;s not what this team needs.  They just need a guy who sells out on D and the glass.</p>
<p>Traveler &#8211; I think the reason you don&#8217;t see more pressure is Delaney.  You can&#8217;t press if he&#8217;s playing 37 minutes a night.  And right now he clearly doesn&#8217;t have trust in Erick Green running the point or he&#8217;d have played him more last night.  I agree we have good athletes but Seth&#8217;s system is a half court system &#8211; on offense and defense.  It is tough to coach in a way you aren&#8217;t comfortable with, similar to how Purnell struggles to run a half court system.<br />
As for scheduling, the ACC/big(11)10 set who plays who, so there&#8217;s nothing we could do about drawing iowa.  And to be fair, we&#8217;ve only won once in the challenge (and that was against iowa).  But I agree with you on needing to play tougher competition.  The issue of late has been we couldn&#8217;t beat the good teams OOC and lost to a couple of crappy teams.  All I can figure is we are just trying to rack up wins this year, or teams just won&#8217;t play us in a home and home.</p>
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		<title>By: VTTraveler</title>
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		<dc:creator>VTTraveler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Observation:

As I watch all the excitement around college basketball on the tube on upcoming games it frustrates me a little.  Why don&#039;t we have the buzz around our bball program a lot of other universities have?  We play in arguably the premier conference in the country.  How did we draw Iowa in the ACC Big Ten Challenge.  My point is Seth needs to step outside his comfort zone.  I know last year we play some &quot;sexy&quot; games and lost.  They were close games.  In order to grow as a program you have to lose those kind of games,  because you can than clinically assess how to win them. If you want the benefit of the doubt on selection sunday you have to build a reputation of being a fighter.  Gonzaga his a Mid-Major program but you wouldn&#039;t know it base on their exposure.  If you want to be in the conversation with recruits like Harrison Barnes you have to play someone.  The other thing looking at our roster and the way we play you would never be able to tell how athletic a team we are.  We always play our opponents style.  Last night was ridiculous, we should have pressed them to death.  We don&#039;t run at all.  Kids like to score the ball.  That half court style will not put your program over the top.  And don&#039;t tell me we don&#039;t have the personnel to run, last nights starting five play well above the rim and including JT who we know what he can do in the open court we can do better.  Im done just an observation.</description>
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<p>As I watch all the excitement around college basketball on the tube on upcoming games it frustrates me a little.  Why don&#8217;t we have the buzz around our bball program a lot of other universities have?  We play in arguably the premier conference in the country.  How did we draw Iowa in the ACC Big Ten Challenge.  My point is Seth needs to step outside his comfort zone.  I know last year we play some &#8220;sexy&#8221; games and lost.  They were close games.  In order to grow as a program you have to lose those kind of games,  because you can than clinically assess how to win them. If you want the benefit of the doubt on selection sunday you have to build a reputation of being a fighter.  Gonzaga his a Mid-Major program but you wouldn&#8217;t know it base on their exposure.  If you want to be in the conversation with recruits like Harrison Barnes you have to play someone.  The other thing looking at our roster and the way we play you would never be able to tell how athletic a team we are.  We always play our opponents style.  Last night was ridiculous, we should have pressed them to death.  We don&#8217;t run at all.  Kids like to score the ball.  That half court style will not put your program over the top.  And don&#8217;t tell me we don&#8217;t have the personnel to run, last nights starting five play well above the rim and including JT who we know what he can do in the open court we can do better.  Im done just an observation.</p>
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		<title>By: HipHop_Hokie</title>
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		<dc:creator>HipHop_Hokie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t speak to what Raines had been showing the staff since he got on campus, but I saw him play in HS a few times including once when he beat my former HS (George Washington - Danville, VA) in the state quarterfinals of the 2007-2008 season.  He was a BEAST then and I know that with his size, his game will translate well into college as long as he stays focused and determined.

The broken foot setback is awful though... he better realize that it&#039;s only a small setback and that it&#039;ll be up to him to determine how exactly he wants to bounce back from it.  Anybody heard how his rehab has been going??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t speak to what Raines had been showing the staff since he got on campus, but I saw him play in HS a few times including once when he beat my former HS (George Washington &#8211; Danville, VA) in the state quarterfinals of the 2007-2008 season.  He was a BEAST then and I know that with his size, his game will translate well into college as long as he stays focused and determined.</p>
<p>The broken foot setback is awful though&#8230; he better realize that it&#8217;s only a small setback and that it&#8217;ll be up to him to determine how exactly he wants to bounce back from it.  Anybody heard how his rehab has been going??</p>
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		<title>By: Niemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raines will be a big key.  The reports I heard in the preseason weren&#039;t that glowing of him, but like you said, we may have to play him regardless if he can crash the boards and play good post defense.  The problem is I was hearing the opposite - he wasn&#039;t showing that toughness and aggression he had in HS but maybe this time off will give him a chance to see how badly we need that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raines will be a big key.  The reports I heard in the preseason weren&#8217;t that glowing of him, but like you said, we may have to play him regardless if he can crash the boards and play good post defense.  The problem is I was hearing the opposite &#8211; he wasn&#8217;t showing that toughness and aggression he had in HS but maybe this time off will give him a chance to see how badly we need that.</p>
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		<title>By: Niemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cope handles the videos and since the game wasn&#039;t on TV, I don&#039;t think he has a way to pull them.  The game was on Hokies All-Access... or rather the last 15 minutes were... but he didn&#039;t record that.  Once we get into the TV games we&#039;ll be able to get that up and running.  I&#039;ll see if there&#039;s anything we can do in the mean time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cope handles the videos and since the game wasn&#8217;t on TV, I don&#8217;t think he has a way to pull them.  The game was on Hokies All-Access&#8230; or rather the last 15 minutes were&#8230; but he didn&#8217;t record that.  Once we get into the TV games we&#8217;ll be able to get that up and running.  I&#8217;ll see if there&#8217;s anything we can do in the mean time.</p>
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		<title>By: goodraisin</title>
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		<dc:creator>goodraisin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was also surprised to see Bell get the start over Thompson, but if the stat line is any indication, it looks like Greenberg knows what he is doing.  I think Thompson was also backing up Allen at the 4, which makes sense to me since JT is most effective inside the paint.  I&#039;m with everyone else, wondering if our size will hurt us in the ACC this year since so many teams are loaded with tall players.  I thought Davila was supposed to be a solid rebounder coming out of high school?  He has yet to show it.  Ditto for Witcher.  Is it too much to ask our center to be tough on the boards?  I don&#039;t care if he shoots 0-2 every single game... if Cadarian Raines can help us grab rebounds and block shots, then I want him starting.  Also, why only 3 minutes for Green?  Was he really looking out of place?  I could only watch the end of the game, but if he is even semi-proficient, he needs more time.  I don&#039;t want to see Delaney beat up by the time the ACC tourney rolls around (again).  All-in-all I am very happy with the win, and 14 points is a decent margin, but I really want to see us improve over the next two games and blow out Campbell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was also surprised to see Bell get the start over Thompson, but if the stat line is any indication, it looks like Greenberg knows what he is doing.  I think Thompson was also backing up Allen at the 4, which makes sense to me since JT is most effective inside the paint.  I&#8217;m with everyone else, wondering if our size will hurt us in the ACC this year since so many teams are loaded with tall players.  I thought Davila was supposed to be a solid rebounder coming out of high school?  He has yet to show it.  Ditto for Witcher.  Is it too much to ask our center to be tough on the boards?  I don&#8217;t care if he shoots 0-2 every single game&#8230; if Cadarian Raines can help us grab rebounds and block shots, then I want him starting.  Also, why only 3 minutes for Green?  Was he really looking out of place?  I could only watch the end of the game, but if he is even semi-proficient, he needs more time.  I don&#8217;t want to see Delaney beat up by the time the ACC tourney rolls around (again).  All-in-all I am very happy with the win, and 14 points is a decent margin, but I really want to see us improve over the next two games and blow out Campbell.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Boggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Boggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No highlites?</description>
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		<title>By: Niemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cope - I thought Bell had a good game for him.  He&#039;s out there for his defense, and the fact he also added 8 pts, 7 rebounds, and 4 assists is a benefit.

Guru - Yes, Allen could give us fits - our post defense (one of the things we really need to improve on this year) was very poor in the second half.  A better big man could eat us up in the paint.  Guys were getting the ball too close to the basket and we weren&#039;t boxing out in the second half.  We just can&#039;t seem to defend the post for 40 minutes.

Traveler - I agree on Hudson/Delaney.  We saw this some last year - Hudson would be involved early and then completely disappear.  One of the problems last year is he couldn&#039;t dribble, so he couldn&#039;t help in terms of bringing the ball up and such or create off the dribble.  He is reliant on others, and if Delaney isn&#039;t sharing the rock as you said, there&#039;s no much he can do.  It appeared to me Delaney was forcing more shots yesterday.  In a way, he has to with Vassallo gone but I agree he might have over done this.  We really need Green to step up and be able to get more minutes.

One other note - JT Thompson still does not have a consistent jump-shot, at least not tonight.  I wonder if that is why Bell is getting the nod as the starter.  Bell seems to be a better defender and have a better outside shot.  Thompson was a better rebounder, but Bell stepped up with 7 tonight.  Thompson needs to be able to hit open 12-18 footers if he wants to play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cope &#8211; I thought Bell had a good game for him.  He&#8217;s out there for his defense, and the fact he also added 8 pts, 7 rebounds, and 4 assists is a benefit.</p>
<p>Guru &#8211; Yes, Allen could give us fits &#8211; our post defense (one of the things we really need to improve on this year) was very poor in the second half.  A better big man could eat us up in the paint.  Guys were getting the ball too close to the basket and we weren&#8217;t boxing out in the second half.  We just can&#8217;t seem to defend the post for 40 minutes.</p>
<p>Traveler &#8211; I agree on Hudson/Delaney.  We saw this some last year &#8211; Hudson would be involved early and then completely disappear.  One of the problems last year is he couldn&#8217;t dribble, so he couldn&#8217;t help in terms of bringing the ball up and such or create off the dribble.  He is reliant on others, and if Delaney isn&#8217;t sharing the rock as you said, there&#8217;s no much he can do.  It appeared to me Delaney was forcing more shots yesterday.  In a way, he has to with Vassallo gone but I agree he might have over done this.  We really need Green to step up and be able to get more minutes.</p>
<p>One other note &#8211; JT Thompson still does not have a consistent jump-shot, at least not tonight.  I wonder if that is why Bell is getting the nod as the starter.  Bell seems to be a better defender and have a better outside shot.  Thompson was a better rebounder, but Bell stepped up with 7 tonight.  Thompson needs to be able to hit open 12-18 footers if he wants to play.</p>
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		<title>By: vttraveler</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion I thought the guys had moments.  I know it&#039;s taboo to say this on this board but Delaney needs to advance the ball up the court to the open man.  Hudson starts the game 2 for 2 and did not take another shot in the first half.  He was open you can&#039;t tell me he wasn&#039;t.  There was one play where Delaney was so reluctant to throw the ball he double pumped a pass when Hudson was open after coming off a curl clean.  I understand this is Delaney&#039;s team this year but he is going to have to get help to make it to the tournament.  He was selfish tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion I thought the guys had moments.  I know it&#8217;s taboo to say this on this board but Delaney needs to advance the ball up the court to the open man.  Hudson starts the game 2 for 2 and did not take another shot in the first half.  He was open you can&#8217;t tell me he wasn&#8217;t.  There was one play where Delaney was so reluctant to throw the ball he double pumped a pass when Hudson was open after coming off a curl clean.  I understand this is Delaney&#8217;s team this year but he is going to have to get help to make it to the tournament.  He was selfish tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: Hokieguru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hokieguru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of performance will cause us problems even against Temple... looking forward to that Techhoops preview... I think Lavoy Allen from Temple will be one of the best big men we face all year (he&#039;s 6&#039;9&quot; tall, 225lbs, and 1st team all-A10)... and we face him one week from Thursday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of performance will cause us problems even against Temple&#8230; looking forward to that Techhoops preview&#8230; I think Lavoy Allen from Temple will be one of the best big men we face all year (he&#8217;s 6&#8217;9&#8243; tall, 225lbs, and 1st team all-A10)&#8230; and we face him one week from Thursday.</p>
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