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Recap | fsu (2-2, 14-4) 63, VT (1-2, 13-3) 58

The Hokies looked like the VT team of 2008-09, getting dominated inside and falling behind early and the result was their third loss of the season, losing to the struggling noles in Tallahassee. Tech is now 0-5 at fsu since joining the ACC, one of only two places Tech hasn’t won at. nc state is the other, of course.

The Hokies dug themselves a big whole early. They led 2-0 but never led or tied the rest of the game, falling behind 15-5. A quick three by Delaney and then three-point play got the Hokies within 4, but then the offense dried up again. fsu led 32-25 at the half. Jeff Allen spent most of the half on the bench. He picked up two early fouls and went to the pine. Going against Greenberg policy, he came back in with six minutes left in the first half and promptly was called for an offensive foul, his third.

In the second half Allen hit a quick three (his first and only points of the game) to cut the noles’ lead to four, but then Jeff picked up his fourth foul and it was back to the bench.

With Allen out, the noles dominated inside. fsu had an early 18-7 advantage on the boards, helping them build their lead. Tech could not score inside to save their lives. fsu had nine blocks, including five from Chris Singleton. Tech’s big men – Allen, Davila, Thompson, and Raines – finished 3 of the 17 from the field. That doesn’t cut it.

The Hokies did a nice job on defense, forcing the noles into 23 turnovers and holding fsu to 40% shooting. But VT still lost and poor offense was the reason. 58 points may sound pathetic, but keep in mind they had just 47 with 45 seconds left. Late fouls/gimmie buckets padded the stats. Delaney had 23 points and Hudson added 19 but no one else had more than 5. Tech shot just 35% from the floor against the No. 1 team in the nation in FG% defense. And VT was 9/22 on threes, but just 10/33 on two-point shots. The noles dominated the paint.

Delaney had his usual solid 20+ point game and added 7 assists but was banged up. It looked like he tweaked his groin in the second half. He made a steal and then a great behind the back pass to Hudson for a dunk that closed the fsu lead to 44-42. Delaney hobbled to the bench but gutted out the rest of the game. A miss by Hudson on a three could have given VT the lead on the next possession but it was all noles after that. Malcolm missed four free throws on the night and foul shooting killed the Hokies. fsu was one of the worst teams in the league but shot much better than VT from the line. VT finished a miserable 11/21 from the line.

This is two of three games where Allen has been MIA. Not a good sign in a league of talented big men.

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  • http://firebryanstinespring.blogspot.com Hokieguru

    Here is my projected starting lineup next week vs. NCCU and BC:

    1 – Delaney
    2 – Hudson
    3 – Bell
    4 – J.T. Thomspon or Cadarian Raines
    5 – Victor Davila

    I see Jeff Allen coming off the bench (in fact, I also see Delaney getting some rest vs. NCCU on Monday)… but Jeff Allen will not be starting… I have several concerns about his basketball IQ… and he’s a junior… a junior isn’t going to gt these four fouls with 15 minutes to go… I just don’t get it.

    I won’t be all negative… Malcolm still was the scorer… and I’m sure F$U knew he would get his (and he had to work for everything)… I just wonder… what if we’d even got 10 points out of Allen? Something? He keeps disappearing… he’s incredible inconsistent.

  • http://www.heyhokie.com Goodraisin

    The game played out exactly like I expected, which is definitely a bad thing. What is surprising is that we shot so well on 3-point shots… you would have thought we’d take more of them if we were hitting them. We knew we weren’t going to get much of anything inside. So far this season I think you can also say that we’re going to struggle against teams with size. That means GT, Duke, Wake, and UNC (round two) should all give us a hard time. I’m glad we only play FSU once… I feel like there is just this massive feeling of futility when we play against them… like our team might never score another bucket. You have to love Greenberg scheduling UNC-Central to give our players their confidence back before we play another ACC game.

  • Danram

    Just a bad night at the office all around. You aren’t gonna beat a team like FSU on the road when you turn the ball over 18 times and only shoot 54% from the FT line. Then when you add in the fact that Jeff Allen played what just may have been his worst single game since he’s been at VT, it’s amazing that we had it down to a 1-point game with a few seconds left.

    But despite the loss, this team is right on schedule to make the NCAA tournament. We’re 13-3 and wins over NC Central and BC at home this week would put us at 15-3 getting ready to head out on the road to UVA and Miami. Then if we can manage to steal one of those two games, we’d be 16-4 at the 2/3 mark of the season and in great position. Thankfully, we don’t have to play FSU again in the regular season. They really seem to have our number.

    But first things first: Gotta take care of NC Central and BC this week at home. I hope Seth will give Malcolm Delaney the night off against NC Central. We need him at full speed for BC because dropping that game at home would be a very serious setback.

  • http://stores.ebay.com/hip-hop-heads-vinyl-crates HipHop_Hokie

    I can’t believe that I had to pay to go to VT and Jeff Allen doesn’t.

  • vttraveler

    Let’s not be to hard on Jeff, those guys were huge and very athletic. As physical as things got later on in that game the first two fouls on Jeff were very soft and suspect. He had his hands straight up. He is our best option inside. Lewis Witcher is a senior what does that say.

  • Danram

    C’mon HipHop Hokie … Allen was named ACC Player of the Week just a few weeks ago. He’s one of our two or three best all-around players. Granted, sometimes his judgment on the court could be better, but as best I can tell he always gives 100% and we’re a better team with him than without him. He just had a bad game last night. Happens to everybody.

  • http://stores.ebay.com/hip-hop-heads-vinyl-crates HipHop_Hokie

    So basically, every time that we play a team with a talented big man/men, we can assume that Jeff will get dominated.

    Temple – 6 points, 9 rebounds, 0/1 FT, 5 fouls
    UNC – 4 points, 7 rebounds, 0/1 FT, 0 offensive boards
    FSU – 3 points, 3 rebounds, 0/0 FT, 0 offensive boards

    I understand that these are the 3 games we lost, and that you certainly can’t blame Jeff for 100% of the reasons why we lost them, but his lack of aggressiveness (2 total free throws, 2 total offensive rebounds, 4.3 points per) in these 3 games has just been a joke. Fans from coast to coast have loved to point out that our 13-3 record is nice, but that most of the wins have come against mediocre competition… and nobody has personified that more than Jeff.

    It’s just a real shame to see him seemingly lack the IQ as to what we need from him in these types of big games, and it certainly doesn’t bode well for the rest of the year. Feel free to make the “he’s the best option we’ve got” argument all that you want, but I think that itself is a major problem.

    And above all else, just in general I feel like Jeff could be so much better than he displays… but often, it looks to me like he just doesn’t care out there. Trust me, I’d love to be proven wrong.

    Step it up, Jeff. It shouldn’t take a free trip to Cancun every game to get you to play your best ball. Represent the Hokie Nation the way that we all know you’re capable of… each and every night.

  • http://firebryanstinespring.blogspot.com Hokieguru

    Hip_Hop Hokie, I agree completely… Jeffy has to show up and produce.

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November

11/14 - Hokies 71, md. eastern shore 46
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01/03 - vs. syracuse | Noon, RSN
01/06 - @ fsu | 7pm, RSN
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