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Rock Bottom | Recap | bc (2-1, 7-10) 61, VT (0-3, 11-6) 59


Welcome to 2006, only this time we cannot blame a string of off-the-court tragedies.  The Hokies fell to 0-3 in ACC play with an absolutely horrendous loss to a boston college team that would be lucky to win half their games at the local Y.  The Hokies are now 1-10 at bc all time.  Yes, Tech didn’t have Erick Green, who was out with a LCL sprain, but that’s excuses.  And excuses are exactly what we’ve been listening to for 5 years now — “We got jobbed!”  “They are certifiably insane!” “Clearly they have something against VT!”

The simple fact is the Hokies lost to an absolutely awful team that starts 5 freshmen and finished just 5-9 out of conference, losing to holy cross by 22, umass by 36, new mexico by 28, penn state by 8, bu by 14, harvard by 21, and 3-13 uri by 6.  I think it is time to admit VT is awful… wake forest lost by 36 today at home to nc state.

The Hokies started ice cold for the 3rd ACC game in a row, falling behind early.  Tech did take their first, First Half lead in 3 ACC games with 7:08 to play in the first half at 17-16.  But thanks to some real errors in judgment at the end of the half (not milking the clock for a last shot), the Hokies went into the break down 29-27, the 3rd straight game they’ve trailed at half.

Victor Davila paced the Hokies with 10 in the first half. Dorenzo Hudson added 9, so the seniors were in full force.  Raines added 5 and Barksdale had 2, meaning the Hokies had their 3 bigs score 17 of their 17 first half points.

boston college, meanwhile, shot 48% in the first half.  They killed the Hokies with dribble-drives and post feeds.

Tech led 25-20 late in the first half, but bc used a 15-4 run between the end of the half and early in the second half to take control of the game at 35-29.

The second half was even worse for the Hokies.  Tech made just 2 field goals in the first 13:30 of the 2nd half, 3 FGs in the first 17 minutes of the 2nd half, and then FINALLY made their first 3-pointer with 2:53 to go.  So yes, the stat is safe – 3-Point % has decided 19 straight ACC games.  Tech started 0/9 from deep and while bc hit 4/12 (which actually was well below their average of 7.5 makes per game).  The Hokies hit 4 3-pointers in the final 3 minutes but it didn’t matter, the damage was done.

The key was Virginia Tech’s lack of defense, allowing the eagles to easily drive and score around the basket.  Dennis Clifford, another 7-footer, worked the Hokies for 15 points (shocker), well above his average (shocker).  Matt Humphrey added 14 and Ryan Anderson scored 12.  bc shot 45% for the game and hit 19/28 FTs.

Tech was led by their two seniors, Davila with 14 (tying his ACC career high) and Hudson with 13, but they scored just 8 in the 2nd half.  And Hudson had SEVEN turnovers.

OVER-RATED!!! Dorian Finney-Smith put up another goose egg.  Brown had a whopping 1 point until he hit two late 3-pointers.  Jarell Eddie had 2 points until he hit two meaningless 3-pointers in the final 10 seconds.

Tech has now been held to less than 60 points in all 3 ACC games.  I’ll have more on this later, but I have to run right now and meet up with my buddy Jack (Daniels), Jim (Beam), and Wild (Turkey).


First Half:

  • U16: bc 7-5
  • U12: bc 8-7
  • U8: 15-14
  • U4: VT 22-20!!!

HALF: bc 29-27

Second Half:

  • U16: bc 35-31
  • U12: bc 42-38
  • U8: bc 50-42
  • U4: bc 56-47

FINAL bc 61, 59

FYI: I promised in the Preview I’d wear uva gear at uva next Sunday if we lost this game… ugh.  I’ll be a man and do it, but I’m sick to my stomach.

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Niemo is a member of the VT Class of '98. While not a professional journalist by any stretch, Niemo analyzes and breaks down every minute of Hokie hoop action. He also researches topics of interest such as Hokie recruits, program revenue, statistical data on the team, previews VT opponents, and discusses his favorite bourbons/Scotches. In addition to his passion for Hokie hoops, Niemo has attended 126 straight VT football home games (every game since '94), eclipsing the 100 mark in September of '09 and recently attended his 20th consecutive VT/uva game. During the final home basketball game of his senior year, he was brought onto the court and was awarded 2 passes to the Atlantic 10 Basketball Tournament in Philly during a timeout for being a "Super Fan" during his time at VT. The Hokie Bird made the award on behalf of Athletic Director Jim Weaver. Niemo was known to be in the front row of every home game with his familiar red afro hairdo.

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19 Responses to “Rock Bottom | Recap | bc (2-1, 7-10) 61, VT (0-3, 11-6) 59”

  1. goodraisin says:

    Even with Green out, losing to Boston College was unfathomable 2.5 hours ago. I am absolutely floored. I think hoping for the CBI might even be a little too much this year. And their demeanor, even Seth Greenberg, was of a team that didn’t really care… that was the worst part. If I just lost to a bunch of intramural scrubs, I’d be tearing my hair out, but hey I guess that’s just me. Simply awful offense yet again… no creativity whatsoever. Ticked.

  2. Chris says:

    Let’s find the silver lining here… at least we’re not going to feel deflated on Selection Sunday like we usually do. That’s a plus.

    Seriously though… this is a bad team. The Wake Forest game showed me all I needed to see, as they’re truly awful as well. I’ve said it once, and I’m sure I’ll say it again: I’m willing to give Seth the benefit of the doubt for this season, but his seat should absolutely be on fire next season.

    The UNC game on Thursday is going to be horrific. You can bet they’re going to be angry, and we’re just not very good anyway. If we keep it within 20 I’ll be very surprised. Honest.

    If not for some meaningless 3s in the last three minutes of the game, we may not have scored 50. I just can’t say defense is the problem when on offense all our guys do is pass the ball around on the perimeter and fire up a contested jumper. Offensively, this is one of the worst teams I have EVER seen. Just just VT teams; college teams as a whole. They’re unwatchable.

    Scary thing is that I’m sure interest in VT hoops is beginning to dwindle. I didn’t get upset once today during the game (as I usually do); instead, I just laughed. My interest is fading, and I think that says something since I consider myself a die-hard. I’m sure it’s almost non-existent with the casual fan… doesn’t bode well for the future.

    • Niemo says:

      So yes, I have to wear uva crap on Sunday. I’ll take my whopping. But if you think I’m going to say I shouldn’t have said what I did in the recap, you’ve got another thing coming. This is a TERRIBLE bc team we just lost to… and they didn’t play that well today! We are just that awful. So overconfidence? No. It is another case of us playing down to our opponent’s level. We are better than them… PERIOD… with or without Green. Even without Green, if this was a match-up of “freshmen”, our recruiting class was WAY better than theirs. The excuses stop today. It is all about reality… (more to come)

  3. Chris says:

    Agreed completely goodraisin. I also noticed that they looked like they really didn’t care at all. There was no sense of urgency. The only guy I saw today who showed any emotion at all was Joey Racer. I’m not sure if Seth is to blame for this or not…

    Sorry about having to wear the UVA gear, Niemo. I know BC is piss poor and I agree with you that this is a team that VT SHOULD have handled easily, even without Green… but I never felt confident about a win here. They’ve just looked so inept on offense that I think they’d struggle with Radford right now, much less BC. I really do dread seeing the final score of the UNC game Thursday.

  4. Cope-acabana says:

    As if our Thursday night game against unc wasn’t going to be bad enough, the tar holes got their asses handed to them tonight against fsu, 90-57. So unc is going to be pissed off and likely hand VT an equally embarrassing loss.

  5. H-SCokie says:

    Obviously we’ve got some serious problems and just aren’t that talented. Dorenzo needs to come off the bench, and had no business out there today. He had three big turnovers late in the second. Oh yeah, two of them were stepping out of bounds. Total lack of focus and he should have been riding pine after the second one.

    “Bad Shot Bob” needs to grow up and start playing within himself. I absolutely love his game, but he’s got to chill and stop forcing shots. I’ll chaulk it up to youth, but damn, he needs to learn two words:draw and kick. It’s ok to draw the defense and assist on a basket. He got us back in the game though and should start for dorenzo. Not slamming him, but his NBA Jam third 3 attempt was horrible decision and to me was a critical mistake. We missed a golden opportunity there.

    What is crazy, is that I really thought we had turned the corner with this team, after watching streetball for the last 10 years. I remember watching the Syracuse game and thinking how much I enjoyed watching them play. They worked the ball around that zone beautifully for 30 minutes. Then I watched Kansas St and I saw the same bull shit I’ve gotten used to under Seth Greenberg and things have reverted back to the norm. This is the same lost group of souls out there except we don’t have two nbad talents out there out-talenting the opposition. I’m sick and can’t fathom how ugly UNC is going to be, much less this train wreck we are witnessing with every passing game.

  6. FruitpieTheMagician says:

    The reality is that we can’t score. You can talk about all the details, but we rarely break 60 points. It seems to be the threshold. Score over 60, we have a chance of winning. If we don’t we will lose – its that simple. Even losers are scoring over 60 in most of the ACC games. 5 out of our 6 losses – we scored in the 50’s. My 12 year old is hitting more shots than Hudson. This is really bad. I see us getting 4 wins this year, but that’s about it. I held out hope, but you can’t go 0-3 with two losses against the worst in the ACC and hope to contend. I’m afraid this year is going to be embarrassing.

  7. HokieGuru says:

    We’re staring 0-8 in the ACC, guys.

  8. Les says:

    I’m not sure how anybody could’ve thought VT would’ve been a lock to win without their leading scorer Green. They have a gaping hole at center and power forward from the loss of Chaney and J.T. Thompson. Hudson is injured. One can clearly see he’s getting no lift on his jump shots. I’d like to see Rainse start to allow Davila to move over to power forward where he would have more scoring, but I’m afraid Raines would incur yet another foot injury.

    • Niemo says:

      Les – foul trouble would be an issue for Raines, too, if his minutes went way up. You honestly cannot expect to get more than 20 minutes per game from Cadarian based on his aggressive nature (which I love, btw).

  9. VABeach Hokie says:

    If VT is sitting at 0-8 in ACC play after playing Duke, which is very possible even if we play better than we have been, what are the chances Greenberg is gone next year? Before you blast me, I’m not saying he should be fired.

  10. hokiegrad says:

    I’m just embarrassed and upset right now. I won’t say anything more. Wouldn’t help anyone.

  11. Hokie-ritaville says:

    Niemo…I, like you, have underestimated our ability to underachieve. Is Boston that tough of a road trip? The football and basketball teams seem to both struggle for the most part up there. I like Seth and won’t throw him under the bus just yet..but my kingdom for someone who can flat out shoot…we have some scorers here, but no shooters in quite some time. Someone in the mold of…wait for it…JJ Reddick, I hate to say that but he could flat out stroke it, now I know he was a real 5 star blue chip recruit but I think we’re looking for a poor man’s JJ Reddick, someone you cannot leave at any cost. I think Vassallo was a bit like that, streaky, but still garnered enough respect to keep people out of a zone and make help a little late in getting over on the dribble penetration. But, I’ll keep watching for a couple or reasons…1) I don’t think we’ll quit and 2)ACC Basketball now mirrors ACC Football, I don’t think anyone’s out of it, the early results seem to bear this out.

    Sorry about the donning of the UVA apparel, I know flood victims that have turned that junk down.

  12. Les says:

    Raines wouldn’t likely play more minutes as a starter. His foul situation would dictate that. It would allows a lot of shifts that may be beneficial besides just moving Davila to power forward. The freshmen would play against reserves more of the time.

    They need a combo guard in this class who can run the offense, break down his defender to get to the rim, and can shoot. Green will be a senior next year. They really need two guys on the floor at the same time with the ballhandling skills to force the defense to react (remember when we had three in Dowdell, Gordon, and Dixon/Washington).

    • Niemo says:

      That’s fair. Just because you start doesn’t mean you have to play more minutes (or in the clutch). It’s all about creating match-ups in your favor. Anything is worth a shot at this point.

  13. Bobby says:

    The only good thing I see from this is Tech will have more pingpong balls for the draft lottery and we’re in good shape for the No. 1 pick in the next draft.

    What? No draft? No pingpong balls? So much for that.

    I’m amazed at the pass Seth seems to get and I frankly don’t understand why. People have been having a cow over how quickly Frank Beamer should be fired or put out to pasture, but more often than not I hear, “I’m willing to give Seth the benefit of the doubt.” Why? There is no question he has helped Tech basketball out of the darkest days of the Stokes era and has had some great wins, but I can’t help but feel Tech has wasted some of the better talent in the program’s history because the coach can’t get the most out of his team on any kind of consistent basis.

  14. HokieGuru says:

    Unless the AD changes, there will be no new basketball hire.

  15. Goodraisin says:

    Les, I hear you wanting to stay positive, but putting Davila at PF is crazy talk. Sure, he can post up a couple of the guys in the ACC who play the four, but every other PF in the ACC is much quicker than he is. He would get abused defensively. Can you imagine him trying to guard Travis McKie on the perimeter? Ouch. Davila and Raines are both centers.

    Also, the way you can think that we should win without our leading scorer Green was answered by Niemo in his first comment. BC starts five freshmen, so the excuse of us not having as much experience goes right out the window. Our freshman were more highly recruited than BC’s freshmen. Our freshmen are considered to be more talented than BC’s freshmen. We have two senior starters in Hudson and Davila who are theoretically better than any freshmen on BC’s team. There’s zero excuse for losing that game, regardless of where Erick Green was.

  16. Les says:

    Pessimistic but constructive.

    McKie is a small forward. Ari Stewart is their power forward. Desroissers was eating Tech alive with blocks.

    UVA, Md, Duke, BC, FSU, and others have legitimate centers.

    Davila is our best offensive interior player. Playing him with Raines some of the time allows the team to create a lineup that has some interior scoring. Playing him strictly at center against bigs will tend to neutralize our strengths.


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